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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 5:00 am 
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Question: Can ASME Section I boilers built in Poland using all local resources such as material, welders, welding consumables, etc... be shipped to the US as ASME compliant. This was a generic question posed to me by a fellow colleague and I do not have details like, is the company a ASME Code stamp holder or are the welders certified in accordance with Section IX. The question was simply put can you build Section I boilers in Poland and ship to the USA as code compliant vessels? I assume that most companies will be registered in with the EU and will be designing and fabricating in accordance with the PED equivalent. What problems do you potentially see with my company buying Section I boilers in Poland and shipping to the USA to be installed at our plants as HRSG utilized to recover waste heat. I would appreciate any information that you may be able to provide me.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 11:41 pm 
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Melanie,

Maybe the news is not known well enough, but there are more ASME Certificate holders outside the US than inside!

I know some companies in Poland having ASME Certificates including "S" Stamp, and they have proven to really be able to build Section I Boilers. In the USA many ASME Joint reviews are conducted by the Jurisdictions, but outside it is always an ASME Team Leader conducting the Joint Reviews.

You are right that the typical European Manufacturer has more experience with PED, but those who have an ASME Certificate, are able to contruct an ASME Boiler. This includes Material, Design, Welders, NDE, Authorized Inspector, etc.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 4:10 am 
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DK,

Thank you for your quick response. So would it be safest put that only an ASME Code stamp holder in Poland can design, fabricate, test and stamp in accordance ASME Section I Boiler Code and ship to the USA. Key words being ASME stamp holders and based on the questions being asked by the fabricator regarding and equivalent ASME code to design and fabricate to it just concerned me a bit as you can see below. Is there a list of ASME Code stamp holders located in Poland that I might be able to review.

-----Original Message-----
From: POWERS, JIM G
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 11:29 AM
To: KOZAK, MELANIE L
Cc: KAUFMAN, KEITH C; HANLIN, ANTHONY D; PLATA, KENNETH J
Subject: FW: Energoinstal economizer

Hi Melanie,

Please read below. Can you please address the issue of boiler codes for boilers manufactured in Europe to European codes and standards versus boilers built either in the US or abroad and built to US (ASME) standards?

The basic question is can we buy boilers from the EU built to EU standards?

Also, if you have an opinion, what would be required for our EU friends to build to US standards?

Thanks,

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: Miroslaw Soltysiak [mailto:miroslaw.soltysiak@yahoo.co.uk]
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 7:02 AM
To: POWERS, JIM G
Subject: Energoinstal economizer

Jim

I just spoke to Energoinstal re the ECO. Two issues:
1. In their opinion we do not have freedom to use any code - ASME is the applicable code in the USA and use of pressurised elements not compliant with it if at all possible means problem. Please clarify this to me - what is ASME code?
What equivalents are used in Europe? Is it a choice or obligation in the US? Is there a point designing and quoting different code based element? I'm totally lost here.

2. In the discussion it occurred they do not have in-house design capability. If execution drawings are not provided they use external designers. Most of times they just produce on the basis of design provided by customer. Having learned so I've checked EI willingness to quote on the whole facility - confirmed but it will take some time.

Looking forward to the ASME code mystery explanation.

Regards

Mirek



Respectfully,
Melanie


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 7:27 pm 
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Melanie,

There is a list on the internet ASME page
http://cstools.asme.org/holdersearch/

This page shows only issued Certificates, not the ones in preparation.
I would advise to talk to the manufacturer directly and ask them.

DK

P.S. I have deleted your signature, assuming you would not want to have your phone and address published.
Please revise your "signature" accordingly if my assumption is right, before your next post.


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