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 Post subject: Support Friction
PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 2:38 pm 
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My nozzle loading fails if i use support friction coefficient as 0.4 in static analysis for rotation equipment piping.

But same nozzle pass (in restraint reactions report i.e. Fx,Fy,Fz and Mx,My,Mz) when above support friction is ignored or inputted as zero.

Here i want to confirm that does API STD-617 criteria says that the load calculated with the restraint but without the friciton is acceptable.

Waiting ?

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The support friciton in a piping system can prevent the pipe from expanding freely, thus creating a higher stress in the pipe and higher load on the connecting stationary/rotation equipment.

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 Post subject: Re: Support Friction
PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:11 am 
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Waiting for reply

Is there anyone who listens me :-)

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 Post subject: Re: Support Friction
PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 1:56 pm 
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Osama,
I don't know API 617 but I would not accept a design which assumes a pressure vessel free to move under piping expansion. For a whole lot of reasons.

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 Post subject: Re: Support Friction
PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 5:58 am 
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Dear Konrad,

I meant i read in the software help that we can take friction coefficient as minimum as 0.2 or even 0.1 if we use low friction sliding plate at support contact surface. We can also reduce the friction almost completely by using pinned restraint system, such as struts.

This is all which i need to confirm Konrad.

But i didnt get any help relevant to my question.

Osama

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 Post subject: Re: Support Friction
PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 9:27 am 
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Osama, just out of curiosity: what software are you talking about?

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 Post subject: Re: Support Friction
PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 12:48 pm 
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Its AutoPIPE Plus

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